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Re: Many ML emails going to GMail's SPAM

jose isaias cabrera-3

On  Wednesday, November 22, 2017 10:32 AM, Wout Mertens wrote...

> In SO you have very little socialization going on. This mailinglist is

GUILTY!  And I am not Dominique. :-) This is the only mailing list that I am
subscribed twice. There is so much knowledge in here, that it should be kept
intact.  We probably have resolved many of the world's problems.  I joined
back in 2006 when my boss said, "Jose, we need to know..." and I googled
"easy to use sql serverless system" and the rest is history.  So, this is my
socialization with the world. I don't belong to of those social sites/spots.
This is my social spot.  I feel like I know each one of you.  By the way, I
want to take this time to thank Dr. Hipp and the team, and you guys for all
the knowledge you have provided in this last 11+ years.

josé


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Re: Many ML emails going to GMail's SPAM

Tim Streater-3
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On 22 Nov 2017, at 19:49, "Niall O'Reilly" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 21 Nov 2017, at 16:27, Drago, William @ CSG - NARDA-MITEQ wrote:
>
>>  Please, not a forum. The email list is instant, dynamic, and convenient. I
>> don't think checking into a forum to stay current with the brisk activity
>> here is very practical or appealing.
>
> I agree with Bill on this.
>
> It seems to me that the idea of re-architecting such a useful communications
> channel as this mailing list on account of a cluster of false positives raised
> by a single provider's triage system would best be characterized as an example
> of "the tail wagging the dog".

Well quite. My advice to anyone whose ISP or gmail is doing unwanted spam filtering is to switch elsewhere.

And there's no need for 'likes' and related nonsense on a technical list.


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Re: Many ML emails going to GMail's SPAM

Kees Nuyt
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:45:25 +0000, Tim Streater
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>On 22 Nov 2017, at 19:49, "Niall O'Reilly" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 21 Nov 2017, at 16:27, Drago, William @ CSG - NARDA-MITEQ wrote:
>>
>>>  Please, not a forum. The email list is instant, dynamic, and convenient. I
>>> don't think checking into a forum to stay current with the brisk activity
>>> here is very practical or appealing.
>>
>> I agree with Bill on this.
>>
>> It seems to me that the idea of re-architecting such a useful communications
>> channel as this mailing list on account of a cluster of false positives raised
>> by a single provider's triage system would best be characterized as an example
>> of "the tail wagging the dog".
>
> Well quite. My advice to anyone whose ISP or gmail is
> doing unwanted spam filtering is to switch elsewhere.
>
> And there's no need for 'likes' and related nonsense on a technical list.

+1

I prefer mailing lists and usenet groups. With a proper
threading reader program I just press the spacebar to page
through a message and to the next unread message.
No other medium allows me to consume this kind of info at such a
high speed without getting RSI problems.

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Kees Nuyt
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Re: Many ML emails going to GMail's SPAM

Gerry Snyder-4
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I hope that ways are found to keep the email list viable.

If not, my only request is that it should push the messages to me, rather
than making me pull them.

If I had to pull, I might have skipped the thread on inserting date in the
middle and updating the ID column--and I have learned a lot from all the
posts there.

Thank you,

Gerry Snyder (55 years of working with computers and still an ignoramus)

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Richard Hipp <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 11/21/17, Paul Sanderson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Coincidence!  I have just been in my gmail folder marking a load of
> SQLite
> > email as 'not spam'
>
> I've been seeing mailing list emails go to spam for a while now.
> Nothing has changed with MailMan.  I think what we are seeing is the
> beginning of the end of email as a viable communication medium.
>
> I really need to come up with an alternative to the mailing list.
> Perhaps some kind of forum system.  Suggestions are welcomed.
> --
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Re: Many ML emails going to GMail's SPAM

John Gillespie-2
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I agree - keep the list on email. Simple, convenient.

John Gillespie

On 22 November 2017 at 19:49, Niall O'Reilly <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 21 Nov 2017, at 16:27, Drago, William @ CSG - NARDA-MITEQ wrote:
>
> > Please, not a forum. The email list is instant, dynamic, and convenient.
> I don't think checking into a forum to stay current with the brisk activity
> here is very practical or appealing.
>
> I agree with Bill on this.
>
> It seems to me that the idea of re-architecting such a useful
> communications
> channel as this mailing list on account of a cluster of false positives
> raised
> by a single provider's triage system would best be characterized as an
> example
> of "the tail wagging the dog".
>
> I use this provider's service for the major bulk of my e-mail because the
> university where I used to work, which provides a continued e-mail service
> to retirees, long ago outsourced its previously in-house e-mail system,
> which I once had a hand in running, to Google.
>
> In my experience, this provider's triage system does a pretty good job,
> with very few false positives.  I see the current high incidence of
> mis-classification of messages received through the SQLite mailing list
> as an aberration.
>
> Since the triage system is open to tuning by each recipient for their own
> incoming mail, I suggest that all that is needed is for each subscriber to
> this list who depends (as I do) on GMail for their mail feed, to apply this
> tuning for themselves.
>
> I found instructions here: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6579 and
> have now set up the following filter:
>
>   Matches: to:([hidden email])
>   Do this: Never send it to Spam
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Niall O'Reilly
>
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Re: Many ML emails going to GMail's SPAM

Deon Brewis
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I would LOVE for this to be a Forum. I'd be willing to be a paid member/sponsor to help pay for running the forum software.

I prefer XenForo for Forum software personally - it supports clipboard image copy/paste into the forum, which vBulletin doesn't.
 
- Deon

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On 11/21/17, Paul Sanderson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Coincidence!  I have just been in my gmail folder marking a load of
> SQLite email as 'not spam'

I've been seeing mailing list emails go to spam for a while now.
Nothing has changed with MailMan.  I think what we are seeing is the beginning of the end of email as a viable communication medium.

I really need to come up with an alternative to the mailing list.
Perhaps some kind of forum system.  Suggestions are welcomed.
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